Dec 11, 2023
Featured photo is Mina
as a child (more pics below!)
374 Anger, Part 2
You Have Always Hated Me!
In the Anger Part 1 podcast (371 on November 20), Rhonda, Matt and David discussed the fact that when you’re feeling angry, there’s always an inner dialogue—this is what you’re saying to yourself, the way you’re thinking about the situation—and an outer dialogue—this is what you’re saying to the other person.
In Part 1, we focused on the inner dialogue and described the cognitive distortions that nearly always fill your mind with anger-provoking inner chatter about the ‘awfulness” of the person you’re mad at. Those distortions include All-or-Nothing Thinking, Overgeneralization, Labeling, Mental Filtering, Discounting the Positive, Mind-Reading, Fortune Telling, Emotional Reasoning, Other-Directed Should Statements, and Other-Blame.
That’s a lot—in fact, all but Self-Blame. And sometimes, when you’re ticked off, you might also be blaming yourself, and feel mad at yourself at the same time.
Matt suggested I add these comments on Self-Blame or it's absence::
Another possible addition would be when you identify the absence of Self Blame when we’re angry. For me, it’s been easier to think of that as a positive distortion, because you are blind to, or ignoring, your own role in the problem. In other words, when I’m blaming someone else, it’s me thinking my poop smells great and tit's all the other person's fault..
I’ve wondered if we fool ourselves like this because of the desire to have a special and perfect “self,” which we then defend. Because nobody’s perfect, our "ideal self," as opposed to our "real self," is just a pleasant, but potentially destructive, fantasy.
Still, we try to preserve and project the fantasy that we are free of blame and the innocent victim of the other person's "badness," , and we imagine there we have a perfect “self” to defend. Or, as you’ve said, at times, David, “anger is often just a protective shell to hide and protect our more tender and genuine feelings.”
We also discussed the addictive aspect of anger, since you probably feel morally superior to the “bad” person you’re ticked off at when you’re mad, and this makes it fairly unappealing to change the way you’re thinking and feeling. Your anger also protects you from the risk of being vulnerable and open and genuine.
Today we discuss the Outer Dialogue, and how to express angry feelings to another person, as well as how to respond to their expressions of anger. The main concept is that you can express anger in a healthy way, by sharing your anger respectfully, or you can act out your anger aggressively, by attacking the other person. That’s a critically important decision!
Toward the start of today’s podcast, Rhonda, Matt and David listed some of the distinctions between healthy and unhealthy anger. The following is just a partial list of some of the differences:
| Healthy Anger | Unhealthy Anger |
| You treat the other person with respect, even if you’re angry. | You want to put the other person down. |
| Your goal is to get closer to the other person. | You want to get revenge or hurt or humiliate the other person. |
| You hope to improve the relationship. | You want to reject or distance yourself from the other person. |
| You want to understand the other person’s mindset and find the truth in what they’re saying, even if it sounds ‘off’ or ‘disturbing’ or offensive. | You want to prove that the other person is ‘wrong’ and persuade them that you are ‘right’. |
| You want to understand and accept the other person. | You insist on trying to change the other person. |
| You express yourself thoughtfully. | You express yourself impulsively. |
| You come from a mindset of humility, curiosity, and flexibility. | You come from a position of moral superiority, judgement, and rigidity. |
| You are patient. | You are pushy and demanding. |
| Optimism that things can improve and that there’s a great potential for a more meaningful and loving connection. | Hopelessness and feelings of certainty that things cannot improve. |
| Open to what I’ve done wrong and how I’ve hurt you. | Focus on what you’ve done wrong and how you’ve hurt me. |
| I-Thou mindset. | I-It mindset. |
| You’re vulnerable and open to your hurt feelings. | You put up a wall of toughness and try to hide your vulnerable true feelings.. |
| You look for positive motives, if possible, and don’t assume that you actually understand how the other person is thinking and feeling.. | You attribute malignant motives to the other person and imagine that you can read their mind and know exactly why they feel the way they do. |
| You accept and comprehend the idea that you can feel intensely angry with someone and love them at the same time.. | You may believe that anger and love are dichotomies, and that conflict and anger, in some way, are the ‘opposite’ of love or respect.. |
To bring some dynamics and personality to today’s podcast, Mina, who’s made a number of noteworthy appearances on the podcast, agreed to describe what she learned on a recent Sunday hike. (I’ve started up my Sunday hikes again, but in a small way now that the pandemic has subsided, at least for the time being. I’m struggling with low back pain when walking and that severely limits how far I can go.)
Mina began by explaining that when she was talking to her mom on the phone. Her mom described a conflict with woman friend who seemed angry with Mina’s mom. Mina said, “I can see why that woman got angry with you.“
Mina explained that her mother, who is “conflict phobic,” paradoxically ends up with conflicts with a lot of people. However, Mina’s mother sounded hurt by Mina’s comment, and said, “You’ve always hated me since you were a little girl! You always looked at me hatefully!”
Here are some of Mina’s "angry" childhood photos:
Mina explained how she felt when her mom said, "You’ve always hated me.”
My jaw dropped when she said that! It was such a shock. I’ve always felt like she was my best friend! . . .
I hate feeling angry. It makes me every bit as uncomfortable as anxiety. If I express my anger, it goes away, and I feel better. But I don’t usually express it, and then it comes back disguised as weird neurologic symptoms.
And that, of course, is the Hidden Emotion phenomenon that is so common in people who struggle with anxiety. When you try to squash or hide negative feelings your think you’re not “supposed’ to have, they often resurface in disguised form, as phobias, panic, OCD symptoms, chronic worrying, or any type of anxiety, including, as in Mina’s case Health Anxiety—that’s where you become convinced you have some serious neurologic or medical problem, like Multiple Sclerosis.
Matt suggested that I might remind folks of my concept that “anger allays get expressed, one way or the other.” He’s found this idea to be both true and incredibly helpful for “us nice folks who think we can get away without expressing our anger, thinking we can avoid conflicts, entirely. This always backfires, in my experience!”
On the recent Sunday hike, Mina practiced how to talk with her mom, using the Five Secrets of Effective Communication. After that, she used what she’d practiced on the hike to talk to her mom about their relationship, and then got an “I love you” message from her mom the next morning.
This made Mina very happy, but because she had a full day of back to back appointments, Mina decided to spend time crafting a thoughtful reply at the end of the day, when she had a little free time. But when she went back to her computer at the end of the day to send a message to her mom, she discovered that her mother had deleted the loving message she sent early in the day, and Mina felt hurt.
When Mina asked her mom about it, her mom said that deleting the message was just an error due to ‘old age.” However, Mina did not really buy this, and thought her mom probably felt hurt and angry because Mina had not responded sooner.
In the podcast, we practiced responding to mom using the role-play exercise I developed years ago. Essentially, one person plays the role of Mina’s mom, and says something challenging or critical.
Mina plays herself and responds as skillfully as possible with the Five Secrets, acknowledging the other person’s anger and expressing her own feelings as well.
We practiced responding to mom’s statement, “You’ve always hated me.” Matt played the role of mom and Mina gave a beautiful Five Secrets response. You’ll enjoy hearing her response, and Matt’s and Rhonda’s helpful feedback, when you listen to the podcast.
Then Mina asked for help responding to another statement from her mom, who had also said:
All of the kids your age are angry, because you were neglected a lot of the time because of the war in Iran, and your dad and I were busy doing what we had to do to survive and avoid being arrested. All of my Iranian friends with children your age are experiencing the same thing.
Matt and Rhonda did more role plays with Mina, followed by excellent feedback on Mina’s Five Secrets response. Again, I think you’ll enjoy the role-playing and fine tuning when you listen to the podcast.
One of the obvious take-home messages from today’s podcast is to use the Five Secrets of Effective Communication when you’re feeling angry and talking to someone who’s angry with you as week, As a reminder, these are the Five Secrets.
And to make it simple, you can think of talking with your EAR:
E = Empathy (listening with the Disarming Technique, Thought and Feeling Empathy, and Inquiry)
A = Assertiveness (sharing your feelings openly with “I Feel” Statements)
R = Respect (showing warmth and caring with Stroking)
However, here’s the rub: People who are angry will usually NOT want to do this! When you’re ticked of, you will almost always have a huge preference for expressing yourself with the Unhealthy Anger described above.
Matt urged me to publish my list of 36 reasons why this intense resistance to healthy communication. LINK HERE for the LIST
- 12 GOOD Reasons NOT to Empathize
- 12 GOOD Reasons NOT to Share your Feelings
- 12 GOOD Reasons NOT to Treat the Other Person with Respect.
So, as you can see, there’s a lot more to skillful communication of anger than just learning the Five Secrets of Effective Communication, although that definitely requires tremendous dedication and practice. But motivation is the most important key to success or failure.
When you’re upset with someone, you can ask yourself, “Do I want to communicate in a loving, or in a hostile way?”
The reward of love are enormous, but the seduction of hostility and lashing out is at least as powerful! This battle between the light and the dark is not new, but has been blazing for tens of thousands of years.
And, of course, the decision will be yours.
Thanks for listening today,
Mina, Rhonda, Matt, and David